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LiveJan 27, 2026 · 48 min

#1 The Netscape Moment

with Seth Goldstein & Ian Rogers @seth & @iancr

Seth and Ian kick off the show with the origin story. 30 years of building, imposter syndrome, the Oliver Sacks piano analogy, and why the terminal is the future.

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About the Guest

Seth is building /vibe, a social layer for Claude Code. Ian is CXO of Ledger, former CDO at LVMH, and built Beats Music. Together they have 30 years of building on the internet.

Show Notes

Two seasoned tech veterans reflect on 30 years of building and how it prepared them for the AI revolution we're living through right now.

Ian, who studied computer science, reflects on his shift from coding to management — and his recent obsession with AI coding. Seth shares his journey from starting his first company in 1995 to working at Epicurious.com as an HTML programmer, and the awe he felt at the launch of Netscape, which he describes as a "Big Bang moment" for the web.

The conversation draws parallels between the internet boom and today's AI revolution. Both agree that while people may overestimate the immediate effects of AI, the long-term implications could be far greater than anticipated — echoing their experiences during the rise of the internet, where initial skepticism gave way to profound societal changes.

Seth draws an analogy to Oliver Sacks' stories, illustrating the feeling of suddenly unlocking new abilities, akin to playing an instrument without prior training. He expresses a mix of pride and imposter syndrome navigating AI without a formal coding background. Ian adds that the current era feels similar to the democratization of music production in the 90s, where barriers to entry were lowered, allowing more creativity and innovation.

"The future is already here — it's just not evenly distributed."

Chapters

0:00Introduction — The Beginning of a New Era
4:00Netscape: The Big Bang of the Internet
8:00Seth's Journey: From HTML to AI
14:00AI's Greatest Bubble: Overestimating Short-Term, Underestimating Long-Term
20:00The Rise and Fall of Turntable.fm
26:00Command Line: Past, Present, Future with AI
32:00A 55-Year-Old's Unlikely Piano Journey (Oliver Sacks)
38:00The Evolution of Music & Code Distribution
44:00Bright Moments: A Full Circle Journey

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